Bill Gates: Trump twice asked me the difference between HIV and HPV

Maricruz Casares
May 18, 2018

Microsoft founder Bill Gates told his foundation's staff that President Donald Trump didn't know the difference between HPV and HIV when they met with each other on two different occasions, according to an exclusive clip obtained by MSNBC's Chris Hayes. "So clearly he had been driven away but he wanted to make a grand entrance in a helicopter".

Trump has often expressed his belief in the conspiracy theory that vaccines cause autism, and Gates said that the president invited him to the White House in March, 2017 to discuss forming a commission to address the supposed link.

They met again in March previous year at the White House.

In a follow-up tweet, Hayes said: "Bill Gates says that in *both* meetings he had with Trump, Trump asked if HPV and HIV were the same thing". "I said, no, that's a dead end, that would be a bad thing, don't do that". It says: "Human papilloma virus (HPV) affects the skin and moist membranes".

Gates also revealed that Trump did not know the difference between the HIV and HPV and asked the former to explain it to him in more than one meeting.

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HPV, human papillomavirus, is a common sexually transmitted infection that generally causes no symptoms. "HIV infection can lead to Aids; however, with early diagnosis and treatment, most people don't go on to develop Aids". "His first sentence kind of threw me off, [Trump] said: 'Trump hears that you don't like what Trump's doing.' And I thought, 'Wow..."

The philanthropist also recounted an anecdote from the first time he met Trump, and the president referred to himself in the third person. "'Gates says that Gates knows that you're not doing things right'".

Hayes said his show had sought comment from the Gates Foundation but has not yet received a response.

When the president asked him whether he wanted to serve as a "science adviser", Gates simply replied, "That's not a good use of my time".

"So if he spent more time actually learning policy, if he devoted just a quarter of the time that he devotes to harassing women and gawking at women to actual policy, memorising and learning policy, I think the country would be a lot better off".

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